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You can't tell if I should be describing the space I'm in

Maybe not

It has stairs

It has a lot of stairs

So a few days ago I went to interview this person

Not going to use their real name. I'm going to change my identifying details for reasons that will become clear

But I can say I visited him at his home in New York

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