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Hello and welcome.

It's our number four.

Hour 4, the Ben Maller Show.

Now, before we get to the meat of the matter here in hour four, do not fast forward, do not fast forward.

A promotion for the fifth hour podcast.

Now, if you listen to this show, the radio show, the other night during the talent show,

we had a call from Derek Martin.

You might not remember that, but Derek Martin played in the NBA way back in the 1990s.

When I was a young radio reporter, he was playing for the Clippers,

and we became friendly,

and we're around the same age, around the same age.

And so he called in, and I'm going to hang out with him for a few good minutes on the podcast.

He tells an amazing story about Michael Jordan.

That is a tremendously entertaining story.

It also involves the original space jam.

So you hear all about that and more.

But this hour and hour number four, we talked some football with the Ravens,

former MVP Lamar Jackson, being criticized for playing streetball with kids.

Does Lamar Jackson get the green light, yellow light, or red light playing streetball?

Find out right now in our number four.

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