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60 Minutes

07/12/2026: The Vatican's Orphans, Sealand, Christopher Nolan

60 Minutes

CBS News

Tv & Film, Society & Culture

3.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

From 1950 to 1970, the Vatican sent thousands of Italian children to eager American Catholics for adoption. The children entered the United States on orphan visas. The trouble was most of the children were not orphans. They were the children of unwed mothers, many of whom were alive and searching for their children. How the Vatican got into the orphan business is the subject of The Price of Children. Bill Whitaker speaks to author Maria Laurino and to American adoptees still struggling with the decades of separation from their birth families. Heather Abbott is the producer.
Correspondent Jon Wertheim journeys by boat (and winch) into the world’s smallest—and unlikeliest—state: the Principality of Sealand. Just off the English coast, and roughly the landmass of two tennis courts, it boasts a full-time population of one. It was built during World War II as a nautical fort, and later repurposed as a “pirate radio” station under its monarchs, the Bates family. Wertheim takes a tour of this micronation and its history of piracy, coups, countercoups and rogues. Michael Gavshon is the producer.
Legendary Hollywood director Christopher Nolan, whose blockbuster films have earned 18 Academy Awards, meets with correspondent Scott Pelley on his adaptation of Homer’s classic, “The Odyssey.” Pelley interviews Nolan and those who know him best about his filmmaking at a young age, his trademarks, and his most ambitious project yet. Nicole Young is the producer.

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0:00.0

Bela familia, mamma mia.

0:08.8

Mary Rolato grew up in Ohio longing for a large family, only to find out that she had one.

0:17.0

In Italy, it was years before she could ask her birth mother the most painful question of all.

0:22.6

Why was she given away?

0:24.6

The church convinced her that it was the best thing for her.

0:27.6

And so instead of helping her, it was better for them to make money selling babies.

0:32.6

So am I angry at the church? Hell yeah.

0:35.6

Enter some countries you arrive in style. Am I angry at the church? Hell yeah.

0:40.8

Enter some countries you arrive in style.

0:47.4

Here, you arrive in what's basically a backyard swing hoisted by a crank 60 feet above the North Sea.

0:52.1

And if you're wondering about the safety regulations, yeah, us too.

0:58.2

Then again, when you are a sovereign nation, you, by definition, set your own rules.

1:01.2

That's a hell of a way to get into a country. The only way to travel.

1:08.8

Welcome to Sealand, a monarchy that declared its independence in 1967. Just wait till you hear this story.

1:19.6

I feel a real responsibility to try and get as much on screen for the audience as possible. Action!

1:20.6

Christopher Nolan is one of the great directors of our time, Oppenheimer, Dunkirk, Interstellar, and next, The Odyssey. I mean, it was a great director of our time. Oppenheimer, Dunkirk, Interstellar, and next, The Odyssey.

1:30.8

I mean, it was the hardest movie I've ever done by far. I mean, not even close.

1:37.5

I'm Leslie Stahl. I'm Bill Whitaker. I'm John Wertheim. I'm Anderson Cooper. I'm Scott Pelly.

1:44.0

Those stories tonight on 60 Minutes.

1:51.3

During the 1950s, the Catholic Church in Belgium separated thousands of newborns from their unwed mothers and put them up for adoption, often without the mother's consent.

2:06.8

The women were shamed into surrendering their babies by their families and a powerful church.

2:12.6

In 2024, Pope Francis apologized for those forced adoptions.

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