Does Pastor Andy Stanley want us to unhitch from the Old Testament?

It's time for The Line of Fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and

theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and President of Fire School of Ministry.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

I am speaking today with one of the most influential pastors in America, really in the world.

And we're going to have an honest heart-to-heart talk.

I'm speaking about Pastor Andy Stanley.

He is the lead pastor of North Point Community Church, one of the largest churches in the country.

There is a network of many thousands of pastors and churches that looks to North Point.

We're going to talk about a controversial message that he recently brought that I took

strong exception to that we've been dialoguing about privately. I want to get you to know

what really makes his heart tick and then get an understanding of his larger vision,

his larger strategy, while he communicates

the way he does. I won't be taking any calls. Sit back and enjoy today's interview with Pastor

Andy Stanley. Andy, great to have you on the line of fire. Thanks so much for joining us today.

Hey, I appreciate the opportunity, especially in light of

everything that's been going on. And to your audience, they should know that you and I are actually

friends and I've enjoyed the friendship and have looked forward to this conversation. So thank you.

Well, I appreciate it. You know, something that has really meant a lot to me, Andy, is the first

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