#069 Jason Flom with Kim Kardashian West
Wrongful Conviction
Lava for Good Podcasts
4.4 • 5.8K Ratings
🗓️ 5 September 2018
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Kim Kardashian West first heard about Alice Marie Johnson through a short video about Johnson’s life behind bars on Twitter. Alice Marie Johnson, a 63-year-old-great-grandmother, was given a life sentence for a first time-nonviolent-drug-related crime and was not eligible for parole. At the time, Johnson had already been in prison for 21 years. Kardashian West retweeted that video from Mic.com saying “This is so unfair” on October 25, 2017. That single tweet and Johnson’s story moved Kardashian West and ignited a passion in her for criminal justice reform. It became her mission to help free Johnson and reunite her with the family she missed so much. Kardashian West’s journey took her to the White House where she personally petitioned for a pardon of Johnson’s criminal offenses and on June 6, 2018, President Donald Trump granted clemency to Alice Marie Johnson. In this special edition of Wrongful Conviction with Jason Flom, Kim Kardashian West discusses her commitment to criminal justice reform and how she plans to continue using her voice to advocate on behalf of those behind bars.
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| 0:00.0 | I've never been in trouble in my life. I didn't even have a parking ticket. I was brought up like cops or the good guys. |
| 0:09.0 | I didn't know what was going to happen, but I do know that everything was stacked against me. Everything, like everything. |
| 0:17.0 | This isn't supposed to happen this way. I'm innocent. I know I'm innocent. I know I had nothing to do with this. How is this possible? |
| 0:28.0 | I grew up trusting the system. I grew up believing that every human being should do the right thing. |
| 0:33.0 | And that's why even though I knew I was dealing with corrupt people, I wasn't going to brave anyone to get me out of prison. |
| 0:39.0 | Because I wouldn't live with the fact that I brave my way out of my wife's death. |
| 0:44.0 | I'm not innocent to prove I'm guilty until I prove my innocence and that's absolutely what happened to me. |
| 0:51.0 | Our system since I've been out 10 years, it's come a little ways, but it's still broken. |
| 0:56.0 | I totally lost trust in the humanity of the world to happen to me. |
| 1:02.0 | This is a wrongful conviction. |
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