Consider the following Carthage controversy questions.

Was Governor Thomas Ford complicit in the murders of Joseph and Hiram Smith?

When Joseph fired back at the Carthage attackers, did he kill anyone?

Also, does the fact that Joseph fired back at the mob somehow take away his status as a martyr for his religion?

Is it true that Joseph and his friends in Carthage jail drank wine together?

Also, were they not wearing their temple garments in? jail, drank wine together?

Also, were they not wearing their temple garments in jail?

And is it true that Joseph Smith's last words,

O Lord, my God, were a Masonic cry for help? Are the death masks of Joseph and Hiram Smith an accurate representation of them?

And is John Taylor's account of how his pocket watch was damaged during the attack actually accurate?

Who actually wrote Doctrine in Covenant 135?

Well in today's episode of Church History Matters, we are tackling these and other Carthage controversies.

I'm Scott Woodward and my co-host is Casey Griffith's. And today Casey and I

dive into our sixth episode in this series about the martyrdom of Joseph and Hiram Smith.

Now let's get into it. Well, hi Casey.

Hi Scott, here we are once again.

Here we are in the aftermath of the martyrdom.

Yeah, this is meaty stuff, right?

And I don't know how we're going to end this one

because there's so much to talk about.

But I feel like I say that in every series.

We always start out thinking,

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