Welcome to the Pure Desire podcast, where we partner with you to bring hope and freedom on your journey to purity.

Hey there, I'm your host, Trevor Windsor, and we're so thankful you're taking time out of your day to hang out with us.

I'm here with my co-host as always, Nick Stumbo.

It's pumpkin spice latte time, my friends. It's true.

It really is. It's everywhere. Pumpkin spice or die. It's in my Cheerios, my muffins, like,

pumpkin spice has cornered the market. Do you think that pumpkin spice exists? Like, it's kind of like

if no one's around and the tree

falls, does it make noise? Does pumpkin spice exist outside of the fall? Yeah, it's like, is there

a pumpkin that you go to and this is a pumpkin spice pumpkin, but this is just a regular pumpkin.

Like, how did someone determine this is a pumpkin spice? Because it's not just pumpkin. It's like

pumpkin plus. Right. And who got to decide this is what constitutes pumpkin spice flavor it's not just pumpkin it's like pumpkin plus right and who got to decide

this is what constitutes pumpkin spice flavor well and people say that pumpkin spice is a white girl thing

why does it have to be a white girl thing and why does it have to be a girl thing i think everybody

likes pumpkin spice pumpkin spice is the unicorn of fall so let's just stop right now because for sure we could do an entire episode on PSL right now,

but we're not going to. So today we have Ashley Jamison back with us. Ashley is the

international groups coordinator for women's groups. You already heard her talking already on the

podcast. Ash, thanks for being here. Glad to be here.

So today we're going to be talking about how to develop pure desire group leaders in your church.

So this is an essential piece to really growing peer desire groups.

And today we're just going to be talking through how to best identify, how to equip, and

really how to develop group leaders in your church.

Well, it's such an important topic, Trevor.

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