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Just go to cruise radio.com. Mark Orwall from Travel and Leisure Magazine is with us to talk about travel

scams, but first, Stuart Shear on the cruise guy is here. Hello, Stuart. Hey, Doug. Hey, Matt.

Let's kick off with this idiot on Holland America's Rindam, the passenger who threw the anchor off

the ship while they were moving, I guess. Is that amazing? And what's really incredible

is they got him on video surveillance

so he he not only threw the anchor but he or dropped the anchor but he also threw a

a uh a buoy over over the side of the ship but uh oh boy and what's interesting is the ship was

actually in motion and uh i mean that that could have seriously i, if they were not out at sea and they were, you know, close to something where the anchor could have grabbed, that could have been significant damage.

And this guy, who's, you know, 44 from California, you know, is probably going to wind up in prison as a result of this.

Yeah, I was going to ask what the legal ramifications, and was he drunk?

He was drunk, and it's interesting, you know, a 44-year-old on Holland America.

But, I mean, he's in a lot of trouble.

I mean, I mean, he endangered the lives of everybody on board the ship

with this, you know, monstrous, stupid act. Was there a public stoning on one of the decks? Maybe all the

passengers got to get it? They should have done it. They should have tied him up, and they should

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