Hello, everyone. Welcome to the latest and greatest episode of the Jeff McElino podcast. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for sharing, listening and all that stuff.

I'd like to see the ratings continue to go up week over week and I appreciate all of you for listening.

I'll get right into it. I've got a really fun one, a one I greatly enjoyed recording and I hope you enjoy listening to so I have Jeremy Ryder on the podcast today. He's a paranormal investigator.

He's also a pastor and an IT professional and also claims to have some psychic abilities.

We talk a lot about the paranormal investigating and we talk about some of the methods he shares a story that still gives me chills basically about him and his team encountering a spirit that basically solved a hundred-year-old murder case.

You know, you're just going to have to listen to it. I don't want to spoil it by going too much more in detail than that.

Fascinating stuff. And then we talk a lot more, you know, this is one of those things that's interesting to me.

I'm sure I said this while talking to Jeremy is it's not that I'm a believer but obviously I don't not believe it.

Which I think is a stance more people should take about more things, frankly, just because you don't necessarily know if you believe it doesn't mean you should just dismiss it.

But we talk about some other things, you know, ideas of maybe if it's not this, you know, maybe it's, you know, we talk about the multiversal theory, which I talk about a lot.

The Mandela effect came out. I think I even mentioned aliens.

There's just a lot of different stuff. We even talk about, you know, what is deemed science nowadays and what isn't, which is I think another interesting discussion.

It's very interesting that the paranormal studies and stuff like that is just deemed kind of pseudo science.

By I think many, I don't want to say intellectuals many in the education industry.

It it seems to me at least that it's kind of dismissed as a pseudo science and I.

Makes me curious as to why.

It seems like maybe we haven't been able to figure it out. So it's easier to to call it a call of fake as opposed to try to actually figure out ways to understand it a little better.

You know, I still think that and we briefly at the end to talk about dreaming even I still think there's a science there that we haven't figured out to.

So anyways, I'll let you listen to the podcast and form your opinions and you know, let me know your thoughts on it.

This is a really fun one. I'll see you on the end for a brief conclusion, but.

Hope you enjoy the episode. It's Jeremy Ryder and me.

All right, everyone. I am now very pleased to welcome Jeremy Ryder to the Jeff MacColino podcast. How are you Jeremy?

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