Welcome to episode 64 of the first 40 miles.

If you're new to backpacking, or if you're hopelessly in love

with someone who wants you to love backpacking,

then this podcast is for you. We'll talk about the essentials, how to lighten your load, and how to make the most of your time on the trail. I'm your host Heather Legler.

And I'm Josh Legler and this is the first 40 miles.

Today on the first 40 miles chill the winter Backpacking episode.

Is backpacking just a summer fling to you?

We'll talk about the challenges of winter backpacking

and how to remain thermally neutral.

Then if you've ever dreamed of wrapping your legs

in Marino and baby alpaca fiber,

then your dreams are about to come true

on today's summit gear review.

Next on the backpack hack of the week, the forest has no lost and found, but it does have some

handy free stuff laying around that you can use if you lose some gear.

And we'll wrap up the show with a little trail wisdom from our good friend on the

hills and fells, Chris Townsend. All this and that's about it today on the first 40 miles.

Well today's episode is all about winter backpacking. I feel like we're almost too late with this episode because it's February already.

In fact, it's Groundhog Day.

We've already put up our Groundhog Decorations. We did that back before Christmas.

We were so excited about Groundhog Day.

And of course we're recording this episode before Groundhog Day,

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