#063 Jason Flom and Ron Kuby with Shabaka Shakur

Wrongful Conviction

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True Crime

4.4 • 5.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2018

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

On January 11, 1988, Fitzgerald Clarke and Steven Hewitt were fatally shot in Brooklyn, NY outside of a building where they sold drugs. Shabaka Shakur, a friend of both victims, was brought in for questioning after a witness told officers that Shabaka harbored a dispute over money he owned Hewitt. Another witness told police that Shabaka admitted to committing the crime before he was arrested, but this witness never testified and recanted in 2014. In Detective Phillip Mahony’s initial interview with Shabaka, he denied any involvement in the crime. But after Mahony, Shabaka was interviewed by the now disgraced Detective Louis Scarcella, who claimed that he confessed to shooting the victims. Shabaka Shakur was convicted on two counts of second-degree murder and was sentenced to 20 years to life. After 27 years–and in large part to his determination–Shabaka Shakur was exonerated. He is joined by his defense attorney, Ron Kuby, in this episode. Ron Kuby is the star of a new series *Wrong Man *on STARZ. The series follows a team of esteemed experts as they re-investigate the cases of three inmates who have been locked up for decades and claim they're innocent.

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0:00.0	I've never been in trouble in my life. I didn't even have a parking ticket. I was brought up like cops or the good guys.
0:09.0	I didn't know what was going to happen, but I do know that everything was stacked against me. Everything, like everything.
0:17.0	This isn't supposed to happen this way. I'm innocent. I know I'm innocent. I know I had nothing to do with this. How is this possible?
0:28.0	I grew up trusting the system. I grew up believing that every human being should do the right thing.
0:33.0	And that's why even though I knew I was dealing with corrupt people, I wasn't going to brave anyone to get me out of prison.
0:39.0	Because I wouldn't live with the fact that I brave my way out of my wife's death.
0:44.0	I'm not innocent to prove guilty. I'm guilty until I prove my innocence and that's absolutely what happened to me.
0:51.0	Our system since I've been out 10 years, it's come a little ways, but it's still broken.
0:56.0	I totally lost trust in humanity after what happened to me.
1:02.0	This is wrong for conviction.
1:13.0	Today's news can feel like uncharted waters.
1:16.0	But more often than you think, we're not the first generation to confront what we're dealing with today.
1:21.0	We're just the first generation to make a podcast about it.
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