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Boys Doc. Now, here is your host, Eric Squarsensky.

Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Preacher Boys podcast. I'm sitting down today with two different guests. I'm sitting down with Michael and Susan McNally. I've had Michael on the show two times now, and we've had some pretty interesting conversations. He gets me to admit a lot of things that I haven't never said on the show before. We get to find out some interesting behind the scenes tidbits on that show. But I want you to introduce yourself, Susan, and kind of share how you got introduced to the

IFB movement and what your initial experiences were in that world.

I was born into the IFB like my brother.

I was born into the Fairhaven culture.

And I grew up there until I was about 16 and a half.

And then my dad resigned and we moved to Michigan,

where we went to another IFB church, but a lot less cult.

And then my dad was an associate pastor there.

And I then just struggled with the whole church idea and struggled with pants and asking my dad questions

and so I I just went to another church and then after that I just gave up and stopped going

and then have just I've gone to like non-denominational churches, but still

don't really know what exactly I believe yet.

What part of it you still keep with you, what part of it's going to change?

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