Hey y'all just a quick heads up the episode you're about to listen to is 8 to 10 years old

now these episodes were intended to be evergreen and I still believe there's a lot of good information in these early episodes, but I do want to let you know that some of my ideas have evolved over time.

Times have changed since we made these episodes and ultimately I'd like to think I've grown

a lot as an artist and a human and that these don't necessarily represent my best work or the best of the podcast.

If you're new around here, I suggest starting with the most recent episode or at least go back to around 300 and move forward from there.

Enjoy the episode. You're going to. Hey everybody. It's me,

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PEP Talk podcast the show where we talk about making money and making awesome art.

That's what this is all about.

If that's the thing you want to do,

you're listening to the right podcast.

Today we talk with my friend Tad Carpenter.

We've been online buddies for years and years

and this is the first actual conversation we've had,

which is very strange, but it was fantastic.

I had a great time talking with him.

Tad is a genius. He is brilliant.

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