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Sippers, welcome to this episode of the Tea With Me podcast with me, Shane Todd. It's a packed episode today,

not one but two guests. My first guest is none other than my somewhat friend, Aaron Butler.

Me and Aaron are chatting about stand-up sort of coming back. What's happening with stand-up.

We're chatting about his family being the West Belfast Mafia and I held a lot more in between, including my very strange, very historic upbringing.

My second guest is Cahar O'Donnell, who was in the band Fighting With Wire.

You may have heard of as now in the band New Pagans.

Cahar and I, and loads and loads of people in the arts industry at the minute, are thrown our way behind a group called We Make Events,

who are basically asking the government for more support for the arts industry

and trying to find out the answers to questions that we're just not getting at the minute.

So Kather and I have sort of an in-depth chat about,

and it's a short interview at the end of the

podcast, but we have a chat about the reality for the likes of musicians at the minute,

and people who just aren't getting any work and aren't finding out when or why they're not

really allowed to work. So we had a good chat about that, and it shows the reality of people's situations at this really tough time.

But the majority of the podcast is going to be me and Aaron talking complete shit and then it gets

a little bit serious at the end. But Cahart was a real gentleman. I think you'll also enjoy that chat.

Here we go on with the pod. Before we do, let me plug the Patreon, which is patreon.com slash tea with me podcast,

where you get the bonus episode with me and Brittany Spears' dad.

There is my stand-up special from last year,

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