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The Peter Attia Drive

#06 - D.A. Wallach: music, medicine, cancer screening, and disruptive technologies

The Peter Attia Drive

Peter Attia, MD

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Fitness

4.77.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2018

⏱️ 140 minutes

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Summary

D.A. Wallach is a true polymath: recording artist, songwriter, essayist, investor, and so much more. In this episode, among the highlights, D.A. provides compelling and colorful insight into how the music industry works today vs the past, liquid biopsies, how to approach healthspan, cancer screening, and how we can reach a “singularity” in medicine.

We discuss:

  • How to learn music as a kid and an adult [7:30];
  • Chester French’s early struggles and ultimate success [16:45];
  • Learning to learn, fostering curiosity in kids, and balancing creativity with structure [31:30];
  • D.A.’s musical inspirations [44:30];
  • History of the music industry, Spotify, and other disruptive technologies [50:00];
  • The past, present, and future of medicine, hospitals, and healthcare [1:05:30];
  • Investing in health [1:16:30];
  • What D.A. is most excited about in the future of medicine [1:22:00];
  • Liquid biopsies, how to make sense of the morass of sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive value, negative predictive value, true negatives, false positives, false negatives, and true positives in cancer screening...and the swiss cheese metaphor [1:33:00];
  • The immune system, inflammation, and allergies [2:05:45]; and
  • More.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, welcome to the Peter Atia Drive. I'm your host, Peter Atia.

0:10.0

The drive is a result of my hunger for optimizing performance, health, longevity, critical thinking,

0:15.7

along with a few other obsessions along the way. I've spent the last several years working

0:19.6

with some of the most successful top performing individuals in the world, and this podcast

0:23.8

is my attempt to synthesize what I've learned along the way to help you live a higher quality

0:28.3

and more fulfilling life. If you enjoy this podcast, you can find more information on today's

0:32.5

episode and other topics at peteratiamd.com.

0:41.6

This podcast, I'll be speaking with my good friend, DA Wallack. I've known DA for maybe five years

0:48.6

now, maybe four I can't recall, but he is truly a renaissance man. I have been accused of being

0:54.5

a renaissance man on occasion, but I am not. DA, however, is. If you look up renaissance man in

1:01.2

the dictionary, I think you'll just see his picture with his curly hair sitting there. He is a recording

1:06.1

artist, a songwriter, an investor, an essayist. He was discovered while an undergrad at Harvard

1:12.8

by Ferrell, among others, who signed him to a deal. He went on to become one half of the band

1:20.2

Chester French. They released three full-length albums, and he also has a solo album called Time

1:26.2

Machine, which was released in 2016. We'll link to all of that stuff. While with Chester French,

1:31.8

they toured with a number of legendary bands and artists such as Lady Gaga, Weezer, and perhaps my

1:37.0

favorite of them all, link 182. Beyond music, however, DA is sort of in a class of his own in terms of

1:43.8

his intellectual curiosity and his ability to assimilate information that seems so far outside of

1:50.2

his area of expertise. In fact, some of the most interesting discussions I remember ever having

1:54.9

with DA is sort of what prompted this podcast. I remember one day he came over, he was passing

1:59.6

through San Diego on his way down from LA, came by, and we were sitting out at a park on the swings

2:05.4

having a discussion about liquid biopsies. I was thinking to myself, how is it that I'm sitting

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