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🗓️ 24 September 2015
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Episode 057: Turney Duff – Wall Street, Addiction, Rehab, Best-Selling Author, TV Show Consultant
This episode different from the normal Learning Leader Show episode… Turney contacted me via my website (the contact form www.LearningLeader.com) after he saw the John LeFevre episode published. He mentioned that he was a fellow Ohio University Bobcat and he had followed my football career. From this common bond, we developed a friendship and I thought it would be a great idea to record an episode together. I’m really glad we did it!
Best-selling author Bethany McLean said it best: “Turney Duff is a natural storyteller, and his tale of how a naive kid from Maine traded in L.L. Bean for Armani and got sucked into the seamy side of Wall Street is almost impossible to put down. The book is by turns hilarious, harrowing, maddening, and illuminating. After this debut, the smart money will be on Duff.”
“The Buy Side” is now on Amazon's 2013 Best Books of the Year: Business & Investing
Episode 057: Turney Duff – Wall Street, Addiction, Rehab, Best-Selling Author, TV Show Consultant
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The Buy Side, by former Galleon Group trader Turney Duff, portrays an after-hours Wall Street culture where drugs and sex are rampant and billions in trading commissions flow to those who dangle the most enticements. A remarkable writing debut, filled with indelible moments, The Buy Side shows as no book ever has the rewards – and dizzying temptations – of making a living on the Street.
Growing up in the 1980’s Turney Duff was your average kid from Kennebunk, Maine, eager to expand his horizons. After trying – and failing – to land a job as a journalist, he secured a trainee position at Morgan Stanley and got his first feel for the pecking order that exists in the trading pits. Those on the “buy side,” the traders who make large bets on whether a stock will rise or fall, are the “alphas” and those on the “sell side,” the brokers who handle their business, are eager to please.
How eager to please was brought home stunningly to Turney in 1999 when he arrived at the Galleon Group, a colossal hedge-fund management firm run by secretive founder Raj Rajaratnam. Finally in a position to trade on his own, Turney was encouraged to socialize with the sell side and siphon from his new broker friends as much information as possible. Soon he was not just vacuuming up valuable tips but also being lured into a variety of hedonistic pursuits. Naïve enough to believe he could keep up the lifestyle without paying a price, he managed to keep an eye on his buy-and-sell charts and, meanwhile, pondered the strange goings on at Galleon, where tens of millions were being made each week in sometimes mysterious ways.
At his next positions, at Argus Partners and J.L. Berkowitz, Turney climbed to even higher heights – and, as it turned out, plummeted to even lower depths – as, by day, he solidified his reputation as one of the Street’s most powerful healthcare traders, and by night, he blazed a path through the city’s nightclubs, showing off his social genius and voraciously inhaling any drug that would fill the void he felt inside.
A mesmerizingly immersive journey through Wall Street’s first millennial decade, and a poignant self-portrait by a young man who surely would have destroyed himself were it not for his decision to walk away from a seven-figure annual income, The Buy Side is one of the best coming-of-age-on-the-Street books ever written.
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0:00.0 | I quickly kind of developed this persona of being, you know, the fun guy and people wanted to go out with me and a couple years after being in New York, you know, I had people coming up to me saying, hey, |
0:13.2 | turning, you know, I need a reservation of this restaurant, |
0:16.5 | or hey, I need to get into this club. |
0:18.0 | And I had started to develop those relationships |
0:21.9 | and I was able to kind of put people in contact with the |
0:25.5 | right people and it just kind of started building on itself. |
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0:45.0 | You're listening to the Learning Leader Show I am Ryan Hawk another fascinating |
1:06.1 | featured leader tonight. It's with New York Times best-selling author |
1:11.0 | Turnie Duff. |
1:13.0 | Terni is also an Ohio University graduate like me. |
1:17.0 | He's a contributor to CNBC. |
1:20.0 | He consults on the TV show Billions, which is written by, co-written by Brian Coelment, |
1:26.5 | who runs also one of my favorite podcasts called The Moment. |
1:30.4 | Turnie is a really a fascinating guy. |
1:33.6 | On our conversation tonight we got into a number of topics. |
1:37.0 | A couple of them were. |
1:38.9 | We discussed the really interesting story of how we met and really the cool part of having a |
1:43.5 | podcast and how it can lead from guest to guest. |
1:47.1 | Turnie actually listened to a previous episode, mine with John Le Fev and |
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