Welcome to Verity. I'm your host, Felicia Mason-Himer, an author, speaker, and Bible teacher.

This podcast will help you embrace the history and depth of the Christian faith,

ask questions, seek answers, and devote yourself to becoming a disciple of Jesus Christ.

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Well, hello, everyone. Josh and Phi, back again to talk about marriage and what it looks like

to follow the Lord in a Christian marriage. Just one example, us.

We are not a perfect example by any means, but we're sharing our story in this

marriage series of the podcast and kind of opening up about our own journey and how we apply,

what scripture says about marriage to our own relationship. And so today we're starting out

with the very controversial topic of gender roles because we love to apparently pick a fight.

Hopefully not. If you want to know the theology behind this, we're actually not going to get a

whole lot into that today. You can go back to the women's issues series of the podcast. I think

it was two seasons ago, and you can listen to the episodes on marriage and the church and those

break down the theology behind complementarianism and egalitarianism, the two main views of gender

roles in marriage and in the church. And so Josh and I are pretty openly complementarian in the

sense that we believe God has gifted men and women with very different skill sets and obviously

biology, but we also believe that scripture gives men and women a whole lot of freedom to use

their complementary gifts in the home and in the church and in the world. So we're going to share

from Ephesians 5. We're going to read a little of that today and then we're going to talk about

how this looks in our own marriage. If you're listening to this marriage series, there's a good

chance that you or someone you love is married. And that's fantastic because on December 7,

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