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🗓️ 16 October 2017
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David emphasizes that the goal of the RJ is not simply to learn how to transform troubled, adversarial relationships into loving ones, but also how to achieve Interpersonal Enlightenment, which is the empowering but shocking realization that we are creating our own interpersonal reality—for better or worse—at every moment of every day! And although the reward of the RJ is greater love and joy in your daily living, the price is steep—it requires the death of the ego, which the Buddhists have called “the Great Death!”
Together, David and Fabrice walk you through the five steps in the RJ, using real examples of individuals David has worked with in his workshops for the general public or for mental health professionals. One vignette involves a woman who complained bitterly that her husband had been relentlessly critical of her for 25 years. She said she came to the workshop because she wanted to know why men are like that. She found out why her husband was so critical, but the answer was not the one she expected!
The other vignette involved a minister’s wife who complained that her husband was overly “nice” and unable to deal with negative feelings. As a result, she said their marriage was superficial and lacking in intimacy. She discovered precisely why their relationship was superficial—but it wasn’t exactly the answer she was looking for!
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast. |
0:12.4 | I am your host, Fabrice Knight. |
0:14.7 | And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns. |
0:19.0 | Hi, David. |
0:20.0 | Hi, Fabrice. |
0:23.8 | Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of |
0:30.2 | Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into |
0:35.5 | over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor |
0:40.0 | of psychiatry at the Stanford University School of Medicine. Welcome to episode 57 of the |
0:47.6 | Feeling Good podcast, and this is our fourth installment on the interpersonal model. |
0:56.0 | Last time, we finished on the blame cause-benefit analysis, |
1:02.2 | and we had our listeners try to create their own while they were listening. |
1:09.6 | And so, David, after we finished the blame cause-benefit analysis, |
1:15.5 | then there's this evaluation of both columns, |
1:18.2 | and now we'll assume that we found that the cost of blaming are higher than the advantages. |
1:26.7 | Right, that's right. |
1:28.1 | Otherwise, we wouldn't be proceeding, right? |
1:30.1 | That's right. |
1:31.2 | And so now we're going to see, what do we do if we have a patient who says, okay, yes, |
1:38.0 | I want to stop blaming. |
1:40.0 | Yeah, absolutely. |
1:40.9 | So just to give an overview of where we're at, let's say you're a therapist, although a lot of you who are listening |
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