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Hello and welcome to episode 56 of Connecting with Walt.

I am your host and is historian Michael Bowling

and I am joined by my co-host, producer,

and good friend Craig Williams.

Craig, how are you today?

I'm doing great. How are you, Michael?

I'm doing well, just keeping busy. Yeah. With all kinds of stuff going on.

It's a very stressful point in both of our lives right now for two very different reasons, but

at least, you know, on the opposite side of things, I enjoy that we have an outlet like this where uh at least

you and i get to come together and talk and take our minds off the world for just a little bit

absolutely yeah i agree so it's always good for everybody to have passions and hobbies and

and things like that there was uh interesting interesting one of our local radio shows.

They were talking about how people don't have hobbies anymore.

And this show, you know, it's a job, but, you know, the research is sort of a hobby and the reading.

But they were talking about how people don't have hobbies because, like,

if people are into macramay or they're into, you know, making jewelry, people immediately ask,

well, do you sell that on Etsy? Do you sell that on eBay? I mean, there's an expectation,

you know, you're going to monetize your passion.

And how people just don't do things because they enjoy it, you know, anymore.

And yeah, and I agree.

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