Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

I'm Rhett Miller.

That's when it got Wheels Off, we started up and we ain't going to stop.

Oh, I like you.

I could not.

That's when they got Wheels Off.

Suzanne Santo joins Wheels Off from her home in Los Angeles.

She has worked for years with the band Honey Honey, and she has just released a single

under her own name, Suzanne Santo. She's released some music also just as herself.

She collaborates on this newest single with the guitar god, Gary Clark Jr. But she owns and runs this particular show.

She's such a badass and she's really fun. She gave me multiple belly laughs during the conversation that

you're about to hear. She's just, she's great. I'm so glad I got to talk to her. One of the

biggest unexpected benefits of doing these wheels off recordings is that I get to meet people that I feel like I've known for years.

And that was very much the case with Suzanne.

There's a tiny bit of audio weirdness, because that's the world we live in, maybe 10 minutes in.

I just remember as it happened, wanting to make a note to remind you guys to hang in there

because it goes away really quickly and doesn't recur.

At the end of this interview, after the sort of tent-pull wheels-off questions have all gone down,

we continued to talk for a while about stuff that I'm so glad I got to talk about with her, because it's the kind of stuff that I've been

thinking about a lot. Questions that musicians are an artist in general, and people in general,

are wrestling with these days a lot.

So that, to me, was a really great bonus section of the interview.

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