0511 | When I Find You

True Crime Bullsh**

Studio BOTH/AND

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Israel Keyes claims his philosophy on killing kids changed after the birth of his daughter. But what exactly does that mean? And what does it imply about his activities prior to 2002?

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Jordan Taylor.

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0:00.0	This is a studio both and production.
0:16.0	Like the one thing I won't do is mess with kids.
0:21.0	I don't...
0:24.0	That's another thing that kind of goes back to me starting to feel like I was losing control a little bit because I had never really thought that way until it was born.
0:43.0	And then after she was born I didn't know.
0:48.0	Something kind of changed in the way I thought and I didn't want to do anything that would mess with kids or whatever.
0:58.0	Sure, mixes.
1:06.0	But other than that it's not really... it's never really been about...
1:14.0	Until very recently it wasn't really about that.
1:19.0	Like I say before then I was looking for a guy to cardiac.
1:26.0	This is True Crime bullshit.
1:29.0	I'm your host Josh Hallmark and this is a serialized story of Israel Keys.
1:36.0	Throughout the podcast we've discussed at length the many inconsistencies and keys statements about his life and crimes.
1:53.0	And while every expert I've spoken to has agreed that keys wasn't prone to lie, nor were his statements fantasy driven, we have found that keys did play with words as a means to confuse or mislead.
2:05.0	We've also seen that while his memory for locations was startlingly accurate, likely due to his extensive research of areas, his memory for some details was not.
2:18.0	One area where he was most inconsistent was in his conversations around crimes involving children.
2:28.0	On April 17th of 2012 keys told the FBI that after the birth of his daughter in late 2001 he didn't want to mess with kids anymore.
2:39.0	And in that same conversation he cites that as the reason he knew he was losing control leading up to his arrest.
2:46.0	But in an unreleased interview the FBI reported that keys told them that his victims ranged in age from late teens to the elderly.
2:57.0	Now there's a few things to note here.
3:00.0	Just because Keys' philosophy on targeting kids changed after the birth of his daughter doesn't necessarily mean that he actually targeted kids prior to her birth.
3:09.0	And just because he hints at breaking away from this philosophy, it doesn't necessarily mean that he did murder a child or children during his final years of freedom.
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