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So Jim here say is fascinating. So Jim here say took over

The Colts in the late 90s 97

In that time very short span they have had 16 winning seasons 16 playoff appearances were able to pivot brilliantly off Peyton Manning you see how hard it's been for New England post Tom Brady they moved off Peyton Manning and 111 games the next year two super balls a super bowl win he has his relationships

Jim or say his relationships in music and Hollywood are fascinating now his musical taste is more like my sister my sister's older than me so he's Dylan

Grateful dead I'm more van Halen I'm more my guys were more heeding this stick I'm more van Halen AC DC he's a fascinating guy Jim or say Colts owner joining us now live

So it's good to be here Colin I just want to mention the speaking of music it's a historical day in great music which also has ties to the NFL and let's have a brief little reason why that is

Why is that 50 years ago today the song what's going on was released and it has special NFL ties calm because Limbaardian Mel Farve were in the studio that started out that song when they're kind of talking to each other and then the saxophone comes in so really special kind of NFL ties there with two NFL greats with the great Marvin Gaye and of course a song that's like

John Lennon's imagine or you two's one it's it's so so powerful and so relevant today well you're a fan of Bob Dylan the times they are a change in Carson Wentz is your new quarterback that's a big decision it's a lot of money Jim he comes off a season in which he struggled take me to the moment that you and Chris Ballard said let's go for it.

Well it really was a lot of work as soon as the off season ended because we talk to Philip Rivers we love that team of 2020 and bought gallantly down and Buffalo and just came up short and we're all a bit hard broken because we love that football team.

But Philip wanted to retire and so Frank Reich and I and Chris really had to go into some some deep moments of you know what will be our next move and and there was other possibilities you know in the air and you know we we kind of were looking to see what direction to go in and when Carson

looked like that was going to be a direct we wanted to go in yeah it really took a lot of conversations between the three of us and and need just really asking them do they really feel good about about this movement and about making this commitment

because I think God oftentimes and about personal decisions the number one enemy you know can be impatient yeah and you can't force things or you get in trouble and in this case we made the decision to make the deal it it worked out with the Eagles and really we couldn't be more excited I don't just say that but in talking with

them with Frank Reich and hearing his excitement and we really feel even better now six weeks or so later than when we made the deal and we really think that that it gives us a chance with someone who's younger than Andrew look yeah to to have greatness for ten years and and we really feel fortunate

by the way there are some similarities to Andrew lucky's big he's strong he moves he wins a lot of games it's interesting Jim I've had two different people in the last month tell me that Jim or say knows more football than any current NFL owner

and they've won told me publicly one told me privately and so I'll just keep that there but both said or say is rare and that he knows football but he's not meddling and that's not a shot at anybody else but when when you run a franchise and and you do know a lot about football and you do know personnel

is it ever hard to manage yourself and go okay Jim just just let the coach coach let the GMGM is that ever a little bit of a struggle because you do know this game

it not really calm because I started 50 years ago half a century ago when Johnny and I just hit touch me on the shoulder in the cafeteria and said some movie

rass and sat down next to me in the lunch room and golden Colorado and so I really learned every position in the organization from five dollars a week at ball boy to eventually owner and everything in between

and I was with Joe Thomas when I was 11 years old 12 years old and Colin Colorado living with our general manager then Joe Thomas Ted Marcia Broda took me under his wing in the 70s and really guys like Al Davis and Tech Shramp had huge influences on me so it's actually the opposite in respect

what each person has to go through in your organization so you want to give them room to have their own you know authorship on things that they're doing and power them and let them know you believe in them

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