#046 Jason Flom with David McCallum
Wrongful Conviction
Lava for Good Podcasts
4.4 • 5.8K Ratings
🗓️ 18 December 2017
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
David McCallum and Willie Stuckey were both 16 when they were convicted of forcing a 20-year-old man into his Buick Regal at gunpoint in Queens, killing him with a single gunshot to the head, then leaving his body in Bushwick, Brooklyn. After being beaten by police and coerced into confessing, David McCallum and Willie Stuckey gave brief and contradictory confessions, each pinning the homicide on the other. They both recanted the confessions almost immediately and rejected offers to plead guilty in return for prison sentences of 15 years to life. On October 27th, 1986, a jury convicted them both of second-degree murder, first-degree kidnapping, first-degree robbery and criminal use of a weapon, and they were each sentenced to 25 years to life in prison. Stuckey died of a heart attack behind bars 16 years into his sentence in 2001, but David McCallum persevered in trying to clear his name. After exhausting all of his appeals, David’s attorney, Oscar Michelen approached Brooklyn District Attorney’s Conviction Review Unit, and in 2014 District Attorney Ken Thompson's office and the Conviction Review Unit completed their reviews of David’s case, finding that there was no DNA evidence, physical evidence or credible testimony to link David or Stuckey to the abduction or killing of the victim. On October 15, 2014, David McCallum and the late Willie Stuckey’s convictions were thrown out at DA Thompson’s request, and David was freed after serving nearly 30 years behind bars. In this special episode of Wrongful Conviction, David McCallum is joined by Acting Brooklyn District Attorney Eric Gonzalez as well as attorney Oscar Michelen. Promoted by the late District Attorney Ken Thompson in 2014, Eric Gonzalez successfully guided the launch of several of the late DA Ken Thompson’s key initiatives, including the creation of the Conviction Review Unit, which has vacated over 20 unjust convictions to date and has been held up as a national model for other prosecutors’ offices. DA Gonzalez was sworn in as Acting District Attorney in October of 2016 after the passing of DA Thompson.
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| 0:00.0 | I fell into the hands of corrupt detective. |
| 0:07.2 | I was not even enough to believe that I would be able to just present all of my proof of |
| 0:12.0 | actual innocence that they would investigate adequately and so that I wouldn't be going |
| 0:15.7 | to prison because I was a good person, I hadn't anything wrong. |
| 0:19.4 | In the back of my you say, well, when we go to a hearing, we go to court, the truth will |
| 0:24.2 | come out. |
| 0:25.2 | I was in a prosecution from day one, who I was innocent, and let forced testimony go |
| 0:29.6 | uncorrected from the lower courts, all we have to United States Supreme Court. |
| 0:36.2 | You have someone with a badge with ultimate and really in that moment unchecked authority. |
| 0:44.7 | Don't presume that people are guilty when you see Montini. |
| 0:48.9 | Because it may just be a dirty DA that is trying to rise upward. |
| 0:57.1 | This is wrongful conviction. |
| 1:08.4 | So there is a ton of stuff they don't want you to know. |
| 1:12.0 | Yeah, like does the US government really have alien technology? |
| 1:15.4 | Or what about the future of AI? |
| 1:17.4 | What happens when computers actually learn to think? |
| 1:20.3 | Could there be a serial killer in your town? |
| 1:23.2 | From UFOs to psychic powers and government cover-ups, from unsolved crimes to the bleeding |
| 1:28.3 | edge of science, history is riddled with unexplained events. |
| 1:32.2 | Listen to stuff they don't want you to know on the I Heart Radio app Apple podcasts or |
| 1:36.4 | wherever you find your favorite shows. |
| 1:42.6 | My grandmother was murdered, likely with a candlestick. |
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