045: Fire From Above: Christian Contemplation & Mystical Wisdom

The Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard

Matthew Leonard

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 831 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2016

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

God didn't just create you...He thirsts for you! His heart is bursting with love for you! Yes, you! That is the underlying message of the mystics. It's also the underlying message of one of the best spiritual theologians in the United States. Dr. Anthony Lilles, Academic Dean at St. John's Seminary in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles can illuminate and discuss the interior life unlike anyone else I've heard or met. (You might remember him from episode 3.) His new book is Fire From Above: Christian Contemplation and Mystical Wisdom...and it's awesome. He is so steeped in the rich mystical tradition of spiritual giants like John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila, and Blessed Elizabeth of the Trinity, that the power of their message almost bursts out of him. To be perfectly honest, I had something totally different in mind when I contacted Anthony to come on show. But then the Holy Spirit took over. Here's where He led the conversation: The mystical relationship between martyrdom and contemplation (inspired by the 21 young men martyred by Islamic militants in Libya) A deeper look into the mystical definition of contemplation The 3 essential elements of humanity every spirituality has to deal with (but only Christianity does) How forgiveness and the wounds of sin are related to contemplative prayer Why the Blessed Virgin is a key to a deep life of contemplation This is one of the most enjoyable conversations I've ever had on the show because it cuts right to the heart of what the mystical life is all about. It cuts to the heart of what our life is meant to be! Enjoy and God bless! Matthew P.S. Don't just listen to us talk about it. Do it! Grab your FREE copy of my quick guide to deeper prayer 8 Ways To Jumpstart Your Prayer Life! It's an easy step-by-step guide to help you rocket to God! Don't miss a show! Subscribe to The Art of Catholic by clicking this link and then clicking "View in iTunes" under the picture and then "Subscribe"! Love the show and want more people to hear the Catholic faith? Leave a review by clicking here and then the "View in iTunes" button under my picture. This pushes the show up the rankings and puts it in front of more people. Android user? You can listen to The Art of Catholic on the Beyond Pod app from the Google Play Store. Want to tour Catholic Europe's most beautiful holy sites? Join Matthew on a St. Paul Center pilgrimage to Fatima, Spain, Lourdes, and other amazing holy sites this October 23rd to November 1st. Click here for details.

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0:00.0	This is the art of Catholic.
0:05.6	Oh God, you are my God.
0:15.9	I seek you, my soul thirsts for you, my flesh faints for you as in a dry and weary land
0:22.0	where no water is.
0:23.9	So I have looked upon you in the sanctuary, be holding your power and glory.
0:29.5	Psalm 63, 1 and 2.
0:32.5	Welcome to the art of Catholic Kids.
0:35.0	This is Matthew, lettered coming to you from Studio 2 at the St. Paul Center for Biblical
0:38.8	Theology.
0:40.4	And I have a great show for you today.
0:43.0	And in fact, in a lot of ways, today's show is really one of the reasons I started this podcast
0:47.8	to begin with.
0:48.8	And you guys know I'm always beating the drum of deep prayer.
0:52.1	As Catholics, we have to develop lives of deep prayers.
0:54.9	Not an option.
0:56.2	You cannot grow in relationship with God.
0:59.4	You can't make your way to heaven without a life of prayer.
1:02.8	And that's why the little tagline on the emails that you guys that are subscribed to MatthewsLinard.com, it says proclaiming the power of prayer, because a real
1:11.5	life of prayer changes everything. And that's why I'm so excited to have back Dr. Anthony Lilis
1:18.0	on the art of Catholic. And some of you may remember him from all the way back in episode three,
1:24.8	when we were talking about his book, 30 days with Teresa of Avala,
1:28.4	which is a wonderful little book from the Mayas Road publishers.
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