Hi, I'm Natalie Jill, fat loss expert turned high performance coach.

When odds are stacked against us, how do we shift and create everything from nothing?

How do we level up when we aren't feeling it yet or we've had a big setback?

On this podcast, I'll be talking to some of the most inspiring and courageous men and women on this planet who, at their

worst, learned how to achieve success greater than they ever dreamed possible, leveling up and

creating everything from nothing. Jackson McKenzie threw a lifeline to millions of people

who found themselves drowning in toxic relationships

with his first book, Psychopath Free. Now, through his personal close work with thousands of

survivors of toxic relationships, as well as his own personal experiences, Jackson discovered

that there is something that most survivors have in common, a relational PTSD that can last for years after

the end of a relationship. Today, Jackson joins us on leveling up and shares how you can heal

and create everything from nothing. Thank you, Jackson, for being here.

Thank you so much for having me, Natalie.

So, Jackson, before we even jump in, because you're the successful author,

you've got this second book out that, so excited for that to hit stores. But I know that there's

a reason that you got into this. What is that? Tell us why this topic is so important to you.

Yeah, sure. So I actually, I'm a gay man and I had to actually just come out to my family in my young 20s.

And shortly thereafter entered my first relationship.

So there was a lot going on all at once.

And unfortunately, the relationship, my first relationship ended up being an extremely confusing and difficult time.

And it wasn't until after the entire relationship was over that I even knew that relationships

like this occurred. It was sort of, I think a lot of listeners will probably resonate with

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