Yes. Are you serious? This is so much fun, you guys, because yes, he did. That's crazy.

I'm J.J. Heller. And I'm Dave Heller. And this is instrumental.

In every episode, we explore the instrumental moments that made our guest who they are today.

We hope our conversation reminds you that every second matters because none of us knows

which moment will be the one that changes everything.

Big love happens in the small moments.

Hey, everybody.

It's JJ.

And it's her husband, Dave.

And I hope that wherever you are, you're having a fantastic week this week.

And I hope that it's sunny where you are. Oh.

Okay, everybody.

We have a very unique episode for you to listen to today.

Most of the time, we sit down with people and we have a conversation and they tell their stories and it's amazing.

And then every once in a while, somebody will be telling the story of their life and they will have a real time epiphany in that moment.

And we catch it on tape.

And it's pretty amazing.

Yes, this conversation did not go the way that I anticipated, but I am very glad.

Our guest this week is Steve Taylor. He's a bit of a Renaissance man. He kind of dabbles in music, in production, in education, in filmmaking.

He's kind of got a lot of plates spinning. Yeah, pretty talented guy. And he's very captivating to listen to.

Yeah, amazing storyteller.

Our conversation with Steve begins with the story of how he got his start as an artist in the Christian music industry.

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