You're listening to the Heart and Hassel Podcast. We're your hosts Evie Rup and Lindsay Roman.

Today's guest is the incredible Cat Harris.

Cat is a Brooklyn-based online educator, digital content creator, and female empowerment advocate.

She loves God a good Beyoncé dance party and has an affinity for

ranch dressing. Don't you dare try to take it away from her.

Her vision is for women to know their beauty, identity, and value. She is co-founder of the

online publication, The Refined Woman, and host of the Refined Collective Podcast. She has also been a full-time photographer for the

last decade with her work being featured in GQ, Forbes, People, Who Where, US Weekly and

Glamour UK. She believes in the power of story that Dunn is better than perfect,

quality triumphs quantity, and that the journey truly is the destination. The vehicles for her message are her podcast online

courses, written articles, hosted leadership development workshops, speaking at

conferences, and more. It has become a bigger passion in her life than she could have ever

imagined. Today's show is freaking gold guys. Gold! Cat goes deep into her

story, how and when to hustle, and also the opposite side of that coin, how to avoid

burnout. Cats shares her story of not knowing how to operate a camera to shooting celebrity

weddings and New York fashion shows.

And sneak peek, the first wedding she ever edited was Ushers.

Oh man.

Anyways, through her years of hustling to the top of her industry,

Cat experienced some of the worst burnout you can imagine, including panic attacks

in the middle of two weddings back to back. Yikes, can we talk about worst nightmare?

But she goes straight to practical, tangible tools,

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