This is an our Americana podcast network production.

Before we start the show, I want to remind everyone that I am heading out on tour.

I'll be at the Bigfoot Lodge East in Los Angeles on Saturday, April 23rd, from 530-8,

and then you can join me and a bunch of other true crime podcasters at Lysenter Bar at the

Paris Hotel in Las Vegas on April 30th from 7 to 930.

And next month I'll be heading out to Park City and Denver.

For more info, go to truchrimebullshit.com and click events.

This episode was made possible by the following Patreon producers, Alexa Horn, Amy Basel,

Ashley Gressley, Casey Jensen Richardson, Chelsea Collins, Christina Sasson, Dana Keith,

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charisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lauren F. Lindsey Curtis, Megan Manolis-Bulukus, Megan

Birch, Megan Capp C. Well, Melissa DeVoe, S. C. Shannon Foster, Shelley Brewer, Tuesday

Woodworth, Zach Ignato-Exwaren, and Lydia Feedler.

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This episode includes music by William Hellfire, Lee Roosevelt, Radical Face, and Sergei

Cherimissanov, with featured music by Francis Cone.

My concern, the problem is nowadays the more stuff my name is attached to, the more likely

it is that somebody's going to try to do some kind of stupid, freaking TV special, or

you know how it is nowadays like with all this true crime bullshit that people are obsessed

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