Welcome to the Pure Desire podcast, where we partner with you to bring hope and freedom

on your journey to purity.

Hey there, I'm your host Trevor Windsor, and we're so thankful you're taking time out of your

day to hang out with us. I'm here, as always, with my co-host, Nick Stumbo. Let's play ball. And back in action with us today is Mr. Bob Van Damir.

Hello. Welcome, my friend. Good to have you, Bob. So today we want to spend time talking and

addressing some common mistakes we see when it comes to how churches approach the

general topic of sexual purity. We desire for the church to be best equipped with the tools to

successfully combat this issue. And so we're just going to talk about ways that we've seen this go

down that isn't very helpful, whether it's our experience or stories that we've heard about it.

Yeah, and let's be clear up front that we're not

here to rag on the church. Definitely. We all love the church. We've all been pastors in the church.

Bob still is a pastor in his, the other part of his life when he's not a pure desire. And so

this podcast is not coming from a perspective of look what's wrong with the church. So much of this is coming out of our own experience, the things we did wrong, things we didn't do for a while. So I hope for everyone listening, whether you're

leading a church or part of a church or you don't even go to church, that this will help you see

a pathway towards every church in our country and in the world addressing sexual purity in an

effective way. Yeah.

So let's just start with this.

Why are there so many churches that do not have a purity ministry?

Yeah, great question.

Thank you for asking that question, Trevor.

You're welcome, no problem.

I'll speak for myself when I was a lead pastor, a senior pastor pastor and then we'll see if maybe some of this is

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