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The Addicted Mind Podcast

04: Understanding Emotion Using Mindfulness and DBT with Dr. Debbi Kooyman

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7655 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2017

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

“Dialectical Behavioral Therapy” is one of the many tools we have tucked away in their tool belt to help people overcome their addiction, trauma, and behavioral disorders. While it might sound complicated at first glance, the true power of DBT comes from its practical applications. This week, we take a close look at DBT and discover a simple, non-judgmental way to understand human emotions. Mindfulness, practical action steps, and a new understanding of the brain combine to make DBT a powerful tool to beat addiction. 

 

This week’s guest is Dr. Debbie Kooyman. Her 20 years of work in Psychology have shown her just how important it is for adults dealing with addiction, abuse, and trauma to be able to take a step back from their emotions and learn how to think again. Dr. Kooyman shares her wisdom in this episode and dispels some misconceptions you might have about DBT. 

 

  • Specializes in adults who were abused as children. DBT is a resource for people dealing with addiction as well as those dealing with abuse. 
  • Dispelling the myth of using DBT. It’s not only for Borderline Personality Disorder. 
  • A breakdown of the three components: Dialectical, Behavioral, and Therapy
  • How we can move between the competing needs of companionship and alone time. 
  • Using DBT to give clients concrete tools to beat addiction. 
  • Normalizing your experiences to conquer addiction. 
  • The difference between primary and secondary emotions. 
  • The mindfulness component of DBT—knowing how to pay attention to the moment without judgment. 
  • Learning to change the way our brains operate. 

 

Links

https://www.liveyourlifefully.com/

Dr. Debbie Kooyman on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvR5IunjD64Y1VW3dunmCqA

 



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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode three of the Addicted Mind podcast.

0:08.4

Okay, I've got a very special guest for you guys today, Dr. Debbie Coyman.

0:14.0

Now, Dr. Debbie and I go back quite a long way.

0:19.3

Actually, I knew her when I was still an intern and pretty green in this field.

0:26.2

And she had been licensed for, I think, maybe about a year at that time.

0:33.1

But she, as I was learning the ropes of therapy, she was one of my go-to people to consult with

0:40.2

when I had difficult cases.

0:42.5

And she's also the therapist who introduced me to dialectical behavior therapy, which I use

0:48.9

consistently in my practice now.

0:51.8

And I've really enjoyed it.

0:53.3

I took one of her groups, and it really was

0:57.6

profoundly insightful for me about emotion and emotion regulation and mindfulness, and really

1:04.9

changed the course of how I look at therapy. So I owe her quite a bit. So I asked her to be on the podcast today so we could

1:12.7

talk a little bit about dialectical behavior therapy and how she uses it with clients who are

1:17.1

struggling with overwhelming emotions and how she helps them learn to regulate that and lead

1:23.4

fulfilling lives. So I think it's going to be really insightful and helpful and I hope you guys

1:29.1

enjoy it. Debbie, you want to introduce yourself? Absolutely. Thank you so much, Dwayne, for having me

1:37.9

today. You're welcome. I love Dwayne. We've worked together for a long time. We started when he was an

1:42.9

intern and when I was, I just graduated, I was doing my postdoc

1:48.3

and I've loved working with Duane.

1:50.7

So I'm super, super excited to be here.

1:52.8

Thank you.

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