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Well and welcome to the American Birding podcast from the american birding association i am your host mid swick a few weeks ago you might remember a conversation i had with tyke james about

the migratory bird treaty act we talked about why it's important and the potential threat to the interpretation

of that law in the United States from the current administration. If you haven't been

paying attention beyond that interview, you're probably wondering what became of all that.

Tyke talked a bit about the role that the courts play in deciding whether these laws get

changed and the importance of birder input in a form of commenting on these rule changes

during the mandated comment period.

And it seems like that worked for now, at least, as Judge Valerie Caproni, a district judge

on the U.S. District Court for the Southern

District of New York, a district a lot there, struck down that memorandum put forward by the current

administration. You might remember that it in short basically said that intent matters when it

comes to the application of the Migratory Bird

Treaty Act. If you didn't mean to break the act, then you shouldn't be punished under the

act. That was the argument that the administration was making. Justice Caproni said,

no, she cited the Harper Lee book to kill a mockingbird, which a little on the

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