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herd H E R D learn my set up before I learn more about football from Jimmy Johnson than any person I've ever known

Hall of Fame NFL coach great college coach one of the great personnel evaluators and yes, I

Give him a ton of credit nobody in this league made trades

Nobody until Jimmy Johnson and now if you don't make trades like the Bengals we think you're cuckoo

Now you have to make trades or we think you're all might be like being an NBA player that couldn't shoot a three-point shot

What's wrong with you and Jimmy started that avalanche and frankly as a sportscaster it makes it a lot more fun

Jimmy is now joining us live

You know it is funny about all these guys and all these trades so when you you went and you said here's my best player

I'm gonna trade him did Jerry Jones say Jimmy nobody what do we do? I mean did you get any pushback from Jerry?

And not really the first couple of years way in fact the first four years

Yeah, Jerry was spinning all of his time, you know trying to pay off that

140 million dollar loan and so he really didn't mess with the football a whole lot now

He paid it off after four years and so after four years. They want to get involved

Yeah, I get that so let me talk about pro days

I've always kind of rolled my eyes a little bit at him

But you know, you don't have a combine now Jimmy so some guys are having a second pro day. Do you remember ever going to a pro day and thinking

Well, I wouldn't have seen that on tape

No, I can't think of anything in particular, but we call him

the most important thing for me on

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