Welcome to episode 39 of the first 40 miles. If you're new to

backpacking or if you're hopelessly in love with someone who wants you to love

backpacking then this podcast is for you. We'll talk about the

essentials, how to lighten your load and how to make the most of your time on the

trail. I'm your host Heather Legler and I'm Josh Legler and this is the first

40 miles. Today on the first 40 miles what kind of backpacker are you? Find out your type. Then on the Summit

Gear Review, a 10 essential basic that may require a little educating to use. On the backpack hack of the week, you'll learn how a simple

pinch may save your life. And we'll wrap up the show with a little trail wisdom from a man who would probably spur some fascinating discussions around the campfire.

All this, and that's about it. Today on the first 40 miles.

I love thrift shopping.

I don't know what it is about going through

other people's junk and just seeing what's there.

I mean, most of the time, it's nothing I would buy.

But every once in a while, you find a gem, you know, a pair of bongo drums that you've been wanting for years,

which I actually found a few months ago.

Found a pair of bongo drums, brought those home. They've been a real hit since I bought them.

And I was at the thrift store recently and I found an old Gregory Pack.

It's an internal frame pack, so it's probably not that old.

Ten years old maybe?

Yeah, maybe ten years old.

Definitely not the lightest weight pack it's probably you know

around five pounds but I picked it up and check the price tag and kind of gave it a

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