Hey, hey, hey, this is Jennifer Allwood, and this is the Jennifer Allwood show where we talk about creating a beautiful home and building a creative business. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Jennifer Allwood show.

That always just sounds so weird when I say that.

I'm like, of course you know, this is Jennifer Allwood show because I'm like of course you know this is Jennifer

Allwood show because I'm speaking and you think that we could have been a little

more creative on the name and yet here we are on the Jennifer Allwood show and I

have a fantastic guest for you this week. I'm going to interview today one of my besties

Carrie Robina is with us and I have known Carrie for about four years and she just has become someone who's so special in my life

and I can't wait to share her with you. So Carrie's background is in

broadcast journalism. She actually started out in radio promotions and marketing.

She did a lot of TV news writing, teaching and business leadership.

She used to be a journalism teacher in South Texas and she received a Best Buy Teach Award there and she's literally an

expert just teaching women how to get on TV, how to get on radio, how to get in

paper and and her latest and greatest thing is that she loves podcasts and she teaches people how to do a podcast and I can't wait to share her with you.

Carrie, honey, are you there?

I am! I feel like we should just chit chat and just let like all these people just listen in on our conversation.

Okay let's do it, Cheryl. We're just gonna talk like old friends. So you and I met at a mastermind.

I think it was like four years ago.

We were in Chicago.

And three or four years ago, you say three,

I say four, like tomato, tomato, tomato, right?

Yes, absolutely. And so literally we just sat right next to each other at a table and

we're in totally different industries coming from back different backgrounds. I'd

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