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Counselling Tutor

037 – Transference and Countertransference – Unconditional Positive Regard – Your Research Project

Counselling Tutor

Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes

Education, Courses

4.6 β€’ 636 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 11 March 2017

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In episode 37 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly talk about transference in the counselling room. 'Theory with Rory' examines unconditional positive regard (UPR). Finally, the presenters talk about doing your research project. Transference and Countertransference (starts at 3.48 mins) Transference occurs when you meet someone new, and attribute to them issues, behaviours and fantasies that relate to someone from your past. In other words, you bring the whole history of an old relationship into the new relationship, rather than seeing the new person for who they really are. What happens when your client experiences transference in the therapy room? It can be hard to spot that this is happening, and can even lead to countertransference - when you react to the way the other person is acting towards you (in other words, you 'play the part' of the person in their history). Of course, it can happen the other way round: you, as a therapist, may experience transference towards the client, and the client may respond with countertransference. Either way, ask yourself: 'Who am I to the client? And who is the client to me?' Ken and Rory provide some practical tips on how to notice and tackle transference and countertransference: Develop your self-awareness so that you are more likely to notice and deal with transference, and to avoid responding with countertransference. Look out for the client 'acting out' or being very familiar towards you: these may be warning signs that they are experiencing transference towards you. Do you feel parental towards your client? If so, this could be a warning sign of transference. If you feel transference is taking place, ask your client: 'Do I remind you of anybody?' Take any issues of possible transference to supervision: a good supervisor is always looking out for this. Check out more resources on transference and countertransference in Podcast 3, and find out about eroticised transference in Podcast 21. Unconditional Positive Regard (starts at 17.20 mins) Counselling students often wonder: 'How can we look at all our clients with no judgement whatsoever? Is this possible?' Illustrating his points with real-life examples, Rory talks about our tendency as humans to see only the parts of others we don't like, and to dismiss or judge them on this basis. Carl Rogers described the importance of UPR in his paper, 'The Necessary and Sufficient Conditions of Therapeutic Personality Change', published by the Journal of Consulting Psychology in the 1950s. In this, he wrote (p. 97): Even Rogers admits that he did not always find it easy to show UPR, citing an example of a session with an army officer in South Africa during the time of apartheid. Rogers said that he struggled to offer UPR in this case, but the officer reported he had felt accepted and that the session had been life-changing. Rory offers three tips on UPR: Don't just accept the parts of a person that you like. Try instead to see and reflect back all that the person is saying, not auditing or correcting the parts that you don't like. Remember the quote: 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. (It is unclear who said this, some claiming it was Voltaire, others refuting this.) In other words, freedom of speech matters. It is not up to us to seek to change the client's world views; instead, it is our job to help them make sense of their world, and to start the process of self-healing. Counsellors are not agents of social control. It is really important that we see clients as fellow human beings, who are the results of the paths they have walked. We must somehow separate the sin from the sinner. Your Research Project (starts at 25.32 mins) In the UK, counselling training courses at level 4 and above typically include the need to complete a research project.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast.

0:04.4

The must listen to podcast for students of counselling and psychotherapy.

0:10.6

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

0:15.6

Hello and welcome to episode 37 of the counseling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee-Zokes.

0:22.3

And with me, as always, is my fellow person in the co-created, co-created environments, Mr. Ken. Kelly, how you doing, Ken?

0:29.7

I'm well. I'm well. I like that co-created environment. And I guess how is that co-created?

0:34.8

Is it that we create the environment that we live in and how we see it?

0:39.4

It's equally, it's a kind of quote or a piece of thinking from our friends in the TA world.

0:47.8

Co-creative relationship is where both people are investing in the relationship for a good outcome.

0:52.6

That's the short hand.

0:53.6

I'm in.

0:55.5

I'm in. I'm in. I'm in this for the good outcome. And of course that good outcome is to bring great quality content to you, our listener.

1:00.2

And today we've got a doozy. It's a new word for me. A doozy for you. That means good.

1:05.8

It's slang. And we're going to be kicking off episode 37 looking at transference. And we touch on this from time to time, but we're going to be dipping into the Facebook group. We have got a comment there, a question there. And we're going to be looking at transference, how we can see that manifest itself, I guess, within our counselling relationships in the therapy room. Theory with Rory is one that I think a lot of people struggle with, and I know

1:29.5

I struggled with this, and I say a lot of people, not because I'm generalising, because I've heard

1:33.7

this fed back by fellow learners, and that's unconditional positive regard. UPR key of person-centered

1:40.8

theory, but tricky because very often we might think, well, how is unconditional

1:45.4

positive regard? Does that mean we agree with what it is that they always say, Rory?

1:50.3

Absolutely. And also, I know that some learn the struggle with thinking that they've got to be

1:55.6

non-judgmental in their entire lives. And I'm going to share a story about my conversation with a hacker who recently tried to hack my

2:05.9

computer by phone.

2:07.5

And I'll share you my non-unconditional positive regard response to him.

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