Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

I'm Rhett Miller.

Howdy y'all, welcome to Wheels Off? This is a bit of a different kind of episode because we are all in our

homes doing our best to stop the spread of the coronavirus and I am in my office in New York's Hudson Valley

and you are in your home, hopefully.

I'm lucky because I get to work with a couple of fantastic producers on the show.

Kirsten Cluthy and Nick Rafini have been helping me for a year and a half to produce Wheelsoft.

And they're both really great.

And Nick hosts a couple of podcasts of his own and he has agreed

to be the interviewer on this episode of Wheels Off and I will be submitted to the Wheels

Off treatment and be the guest on this episode I hope none of you think that this is too

narcissistic or to navel-gazing. This is an invention born as so many of them are out of

necessity. Moving forward, I will probably be figuring out a way to interview people from afar,

which I've never had to do before. But I think after having recorded

this episode with Nick, I think we'll be able to make this work. So guys, buckle up. I'm your

guest on this Wheels Off. Thanks so much for joining me.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to wheels off.

This is Nick Refini, and I produced this podcast in partnership with Rhett.

And we thought that it would be interesting to turn the tables a bit and get Rhett on the other side of the mic and being the interviewee and not the interviewer. So, uh, so,

Rhett, welcome to your show.

Well, it is so nice to be on wheels off. I've been listening to the program and really

enjoying it. Good work, Nick. I bet you've probably listened to every episode, haven't you?

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