Welcome to episode 34 of the first 40 miles.

If you're new to backpacking, or if you're hopelessly in love with someone who wants you to love

backpacking, then this podcast is for you. We'll talk about the essentials,

how to lighten your load,

and how to make the most of your time on the trail.

I'm your host, Heather Legler.

And I'm Josh Legler.

And this is the first 40 miles.

Today on the first 40 miles, Privy, the bathroom episode.

Find out why this episode made it on our list of evergreen episodes.

Then learn the answers to the top five potty questions.

Things to know before you go.

Then the Summit Gear Review turns into the Summit Smackdown

as two trowels go head to head as they battle for a place in your pack.

On the Backpack Hack of the Week,

we'll teach you a skill that Asians have known for centuries if not millennia and we'll wrap up the show with a little twist on trail wisdom.

All this and that's about it today on the first 40 miles.

So as I was doing the prep work for this episode and researching and typing up show notes the question the I mean it's already an awkward subject it's something that nobody really wants to talk

about I don't know maybe our listeners really want to hear about it but it's just

awkward yeah it is it it's. I'm thinking back to Scout camp and you know the

Kaibo was always a source of great fascination for 12-year-old scouts.

Maybe we're not much better than 12 year old scouts.

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