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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

032 | The Key Milestones of Financial Independence

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Careers, Investing, Business

4.85.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2017

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Dave Ramsey's baby steps end where most people's questions begin. Once you're debt-free, then what? Joel from FI180.com returns to the show with a framework of milestones that map the entire journey from zero net worth to Fat FI—giving you checkpoints to celebrate and metrics to track beyond the traditional debt-payoff finish line. Brad and Jonathan dig into each milestone: FU money, Half FI, Lean FI, Flex FI, and beyond, exploring the psychological shifts and strategic decisions at each stage. Key Topics Understanding FI Milestones vs. Baby Steps — Joel contrasts his milestone approach with Dave Ramsey's debt-reduction steps, showing how FI milestones provide a more tailored roadmap for those pursuing financial independence rather than just debt elimination. Tracking Financial Independence — Discussion of tools like the FI laboratory and parameters for measuring progress, including the conservativeness of the 4% rule in financial planning. The First Milestones: Debt-Free and FU Money — Eliminating consumer debt (excluding possibly a mortgage) and building FU money—savings that grant career flexibility and the power to walk away from bad situations. Half FI Milestone — Reaching half your FI number and why this psychological turning point can be highly motivating. Lean FI — Having enough to stop working indefinitely if you're willing to cut discretionary spending and live lean. Flex FI — Achieved at 20 times annual spending, allowing flexibility in withdrawal rates and lifestyle choices while maintaining substantial security. Financial Independence (FI) — Reaching 25 times annual spending, the classic FI benchmark where work becomes optional. Fat FI — Saving 30 times annual spending for maximum financial security and lifestyle flexibility. Celebrating Milestones — How to acknowledge achievements along the FI journey to maintain motivation and perspective. Chapters [00:00:44] Introduction to Milestones [00:11:10] First Milestone: Debt-Free [00:12:58] Importance of FU Money [00:17:53] Half FI Milestone [00:23:10] Lean FI Milestone [00:29:36] Flex FI Explanation [00:36:51] Financial Independence (FI) [00:43:09] Fat FI Commentary [00:45:56] Celebration of Milestones Key Quotes "Achieving FI is akin to earning a master's degree in personal finance." — Joel [00:00:44] "With FI, your money works for you, making your work optional." — Joel [00:06:40] "Achieving debt-free status (except possibly a mortgage) is crucial for financial freedom." — Joel [00:11:18] "You've hit a point of financial independence, reaching enough to support your life choices." — Joel [00:39:42] Resources FI180.com: fi180.com The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins: jlcollinsnh.com Terminology FU Money — Savings that empower individuals to leave unfavorable job situations without financial stress. [00:13:06] Lean FI — The stage at which an individual can stop working indefinitely as long as they minimize discretionary expenditures. [00:23:10] Flex FI — A milestone achieved at 20 times one's annual spending that allows for flexibility in withdrawal rates and lifestyle choices. [00:29:36] Action Items Identify and calculate your current milestones in financial independence. [00:09:19] Evaluate your discretionary spending to work towards Lean FI. [00:23:10] Consider pursuing FI as a gradual journey rather than a single finish line. [00:33:16] ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 034 — Stock Market Investing: The Simple Path to Wealth Part 2 | Essential Listening

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Welcome to the show.

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Today we have Joel from FI180.com and he is our first repeat guest.

0:59.3

This is super cool because Joel just released an article called The Milestones of FI that

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was released literally within the last several weeks.

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It was one that Brad and I were incredibly excited about because one, we hadn't seen anything

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like this in the FI blogosphere up to this point.

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Two, it provided the perfect contrast to the Dave Ramsey baby steps, which while they

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are very nice in the enclosure of getting out of debt, they really don't provide much

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value to someone that is pursuing FI.

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And we needed a new set of metrics or as Joel is going to call them and we will call them

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going forward milestones to really track your progress to stay motivated on this journey

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to get excited about the little wins along the way.

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And FI is essentially the master's degree of personal finance.

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If Dave Ramsey was the kindergarten or the bachelor's degree, FI is the master's degree.

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It fills in all the blanks and explains the why to your choice.

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