The Conservative Party brand has been catastrophically tarnished. People stop listening to the

Tory party. I've just had enough of them. I wouldn't consider voting for them. What a shower,

what a rabble, what a shambles, all of the rest of it. I think that the centre right needs to

start being anti-establishment. And this is going to be quite a pivot for the Conservative Party.

In my broad view, if you look at the rest of

the Western world, that the right is remaking itself in that image. Although you can't look at

problems and demographics in one country and just hit Control C, Control V, and cut and paste it

onto the UK, seems to me that there are so many examples of this,

that the new message and approach of the centre-right needs to be one,

which is the present system is broken and needs to be completely overhauled.

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