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Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

024: Scared Stiff — The Cognitive Model (Part 3)

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Clinical, Therapy, Anxiety, Psychotherapy, Depression, Health & Fitness, Cognitive, Mentalhealth, Mental Health, Behavior, Education, Self-improvement, Psychology, Relationships, Addiction, Happiness, Personalgrowth

4.4856 Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2017

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The cognitive model of anxiety is based on three powerful ideas:

  1. Anxiety always results from negative thought (NTs) that involve the prediction of danger. For example, if you have public speaking anxiety, you are probably telling yourself something like this: “I just know I’m going to blow it. My voice will tremble. People will know I’m anxious. My mind will go blank. I’ll mumble and make a total fool of myself.” Or, if you struggle with panic attacks, you probably have thoughts like this: “I think I’m about to die. I can’t breathe properly. I’m about to pass out!” Or, “I’m about to lose control and go crazy.”
  2. The NTs that trigger anxiety are always distorted and illogical. In contrast, valid NTs cause healthy fear.
  3. When you put the lie to the distorted NTs, the anxiety will disappear. This can sometimes happen in an instant.

Dr. Burns describes his treatment of a woman named Terry who had suffered from ten years of incapacitating panic attacks and severe depression prior to contacting Dr. Burns. During each panic attack, Terry would experience tightness in her chest and tingling skin and tell herself she was about to pass out, suffocate, or die of a heart attack. Multiple emergency room visits, medical tests, and reassurances from doctors did not help. In addition, years of medication and psychotherapy were not at all helpful.

After trying a number of cognitive techniques that did not help, Dr. Burns persuaded her to let him induce an actual panic attack during an office visit so he could use the Experimental Technique, which is arguably the most powerful technique ever developed for the treatment of anxiety, and he televised the session. What happened next will blow your mind!

In the next podcast, Drs. Burns and Nye will describe the Exposure Model of treatment, and Dr. Burns will describe his personal struggles with his fear of blood during medical school.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast.

0:12.4

I am your host, Fabrice Knight.

0:14.7

And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns.

0:19.0

Hi, David.

0:20.0

Hi, Fabrice.

0:23.8

Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of

0:30.2

Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into

0:35.5

over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor of psychiatry

0:40.9

at the Stanford University School of Medicine.

0:44.6

Okay, so now we are, actually we're testing a new technology today.

0:49.2

I'm no longer in the Murrieta Studios.

0:52.8

David is there, but I am on Skype, and we're going to see whether we have a good enough

0:59.7

sound quality.

1:02.9

But today is going to be part three of Scared Stiff, of our podcast about anxiety.

1:10.0

And today we're going to be looking at the cognitive model, one of the four main models

1:15.3

that David talked about last time.

1:19.2

And so the cognitive model is when our thinking gives rise to our anxiety, David, right?

1:26.0

Yes, in fact, I would say that in virtually all cases, anxiety results from these negative

1:34.3

thoughts telling ourselves that we're in danger and that some terrible thing is about to happen to us.

1:41.3

But we have four tremendously powerful but radically different treatment models

1:47.5

for treating anxiety. And so today we'll be looking at the cognitive model and the idea is that

1:56.2

the moment you stop believing the negative thoughts that are triggering your anxiety in that

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