Recovery Elevator episode 23.

I was talking to one of my sons on the phone and I was saying,

you know, I think, you know, I'm gonna stop, you know, drinking and he said,

you know, mom, I've heard this all before.

I'm tired of hearing it. Welcome to the Recovery Elevator Podcast. My name is Paul. Thank you so much for joining us.

According to my Recovery Elevator sobriety app available on Google and on the iTunes

App Store, I have been sober for 10 months, two weeks and five days at the time of this recording

on July 26th, 2015.

The topic of today's podcast is the other side.

I'm going to be interviewing Pete, who is not an alcoholic, but he is on the other side of the

equation he is a spouse of an alcoholic and his wife was interviewed in

episode four and I've received several emails from non-alcoholics who continually listen to the Recovery Elevator

podcast.

And they say it's been extremely insightful and educational about how the alcoholic mind works. It allows them to better understand their spouse, their

brother, their sister, or their close friend. So this is the first episode in a four-part series

where I interview somebody who's not an

alcoholic. I've also got Shelly from Hawaii on the podcast today. But before we

get into the other side segment of the podcast let's hear from our sponsor

Sober Nation.

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They provide treatment resources to those struggling with addiction as well to family members who are caught in the crossfire.

On top of that, sober nation is a huge community of good people who share their experience

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