I'm J.J. Heller, and this is Instrumental, a show about the big and small moments that shape our lives.

In every episode, my guest and I start near the end of their story and work our way back to the beginning.

I hope our conversation reminds you that every second matters, because none of us knows which moment will be the one that

changes everything.

Hey everybody, it's JJ.

Hey, nobody.

It's Dave.

Nobody.

You're always greeting everybody.

I figured nobody should get a shout out.

What up, nobody?

Have you ever wondered what it's like to work as a writer on a TV show or a blockbuster movie?

I have.

Well, David, our guest this week will give you a window into what it's

like working in Hollywood. That's right, JJ. Our guest, Alan Heinberg, is such a thoughtful and

insightful person, and I know you, listener, are going to really enjoy hearing his story.

Alan has been a writer on several different

network and cable TV shows. And the thing that I love about this episode is how Alan came

into it, knowing the premise of our show, but over the course of our conversation, he saw

connections and pivotal moments of his story that he'd never

noticed before.

That's like the kind of stuff I live for.

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