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How about when you started a new relationship when you first met Kim? Did that? The excitement

of being in a new relationship and stuff like that? Did that make it easier not to do something?

Yeah, there were. I've had lots of distractions long way. That's, you know, it's like one hobby

after another with me. Before I met Kimberly, I was building that canoe and building different

stuff for people around the eBay. I was still putting into the construction thing and

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