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Welcome to the You Are Not So Smart Podcast in Between episode 3, episode 21. In episode 19 of the You're Not So Smart podcast, we talked all about the placebo effect and our guest, our expert guest was Christy Erdahl, a psychologist and a professor of psychology in Colorado who was the person who tutored and guided and led and advised the person who actually came up with the study that discovered placebo sleep.

And the person who did the study who came up with it was Christina Dragonich, a student of Christie's

who at a very young age as an undergraduate was able to advance

our understanding of the natural world by discovering placebo sleep and creating the study that discovered it.

And placebo sleep is when you

convince people that they got a good night sleep or convince them that they did not get a good night

sleep and then whether or not they got a good night sleep their behavior their attitude their decisions their judgment their ability to perform on a

Test of cognitive skills is all that is affected by whether or not they believe they got a good night

sleep regardless of whether or not they did. So I really wanted to get both of

those people on the show but I was only able to get Christie because of scheduling conflicts

with Christina who is working her way through academia trying to become a

neuroscientist a doctor. So since I couldn't talk to Christina in the episode I was able to get a

hold of her later and interview her and this is what you're going to hear

today is the interview with Christina Dragonich

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