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Wrongful Conviction

#020 Jason Flom with The San Antonio Four

Wrongful Conviction

Lava for Good Podcasts

True Crime

4.45.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2017

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In 1995, 20-year-old Elizabeth Ramirez and three of her friends —Cassandra Rivera, Kristie Mayhugh, and Anna Vasquez — were indicted on charges of sexually molesting Ms. Ramirez’s 7-year-old and 9-year-old nieces in San Antonio, TX. Before charges were filed, police learned that all four women were gay and had recently come out to their families. The allegations came in the wake of more than a decade of national hysteria over claims of satanic ritual abuse of children. All four women cooperated with authorities but vehemently denied they molested the girls. In both trials, prosecutors won convictions by discounting the many inconsistencies in the little girls’ testimonies and argued that the inconsistencies were outweighed by the testimony of a pediatrician. Prosecutors portrayed Elizabeth Ramirez as the ringleader and tried her first. She was convicted in 1997 of aggravated sexual assault of a child and indecency with a child and sentenced to 37½ years in prison. The remaining women were tried together in 1998 and were each convicted of two counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child. All three were sentenced to 15 years in prison on the aggravated sexual assault charges and 10 years for the indecency charges. The convictions began to unravel many years later when one of Elizabeth’s two nieces, now in her twenties, stepped forward to say she had lied. Members of her family coached her, she told authorities, to make up a story because of their anger about Elizabeth's sexuality. Soon after, the pediatrician used by the prosecution recanted her testimony based on new scientific evidence that showed her original findings regarding the girls' injuries were medically inaccurate. With the new evidence, the Innocence Project of Texas filed for post-conviction relief to have the verdicts overturned. A Bexar County District Court allowed Kristie Mayhugh, Cassandra Rivera, and Elizabeth Ramirez to be released from prison in 2013 while the court considered their request to have their verdicts overturned. Anna Vasquez had just been released on parole. They were finally exonerated in 2016 after serving a combined total of 62 years in prison.

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0:00.0

My interview with the San Antonio IV was one of the first ones that I recorded in front of a live audience.

0:06.0

And we did it at South by Southwest and the episode originally aired on April 17th of 2017.

0:13.0

The good news is these four extraordinary women who went through this impossible ordeal,

0:20.0

frame job and persecution and false conviction.

0:24.0

In 2018, they finally had their criminal records expunged, fully expunged.

0:28.0

Cassandra Rivera started working in a law office in 2017.

0:32.0

Elizabeth Ramirez married a woman named Angel who she met in prison in February of 2018.

0:38.0

Anna Vasquez, get ready for this, started serving as the director of outreach for the Innocence Project in Texas in March 2016.

0:44.0

And in June 2019, she was appointed as a representative of the Houston Forensic Science Center,

0:50.0

where she will help to oversee Houston Forensic Scientists, providing a valuable perspective on the consequences of flawed evidence analysis

0:57.0

and confirmation bias.

0:59.0

And Kristi Mayhew is now studying at the Vetech Institute of Houston pursuing her dream of becoming a veteran area that was put on hold for over 15 years because of a crime she didn't commit.

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