You know, Katja, coming in fifth, you know, I see it as something that I could have done more

and it's so insanely motivating for me to do more for her because I believe that she did a lot.

She worked really hard. She did everything I asked of her. I believe I was asking the wrong things.

I had some holes in my game. So I'm going to use that because I know what that feeling was

when she didn't do as well as I thought she was capable of because of me. I take complete

ownership of this. It's like I don't think that she was underperformed. I think that she did

phenomenally. She was not unfit. She won two of the events. There's just some holes in my game

that I need to fill and this is the negative side of the dark side. I'm incredibly

motivated by that. I don't want that feeling again. What confidence has nothing to do with winning

or the leaderboard. What confidence is is knowing that you giving your best efforts is enough.

Okay Ben, welcome back. Thanks, Patrick. Once again, there's been a long delay and we will blame

the CrossFit Games for it. That's what we're going to talk about as well. We'll try to make up for it.

We're about a month, a little less than a month, maybe out from the CrossFit Games.

You and I haven't even really talked about the games too much. That's what I want to talk to you about

is just what the games were like. What did obviously new venue, lots of new things,

what you learned, tons of stuff. Let's just start with just overall experience this year at the

Games. What stuck out to you a few weeks after as the big moments for you?

The big obvious ones are, to me, is the events, slash the programming, the venue,

where people finished on the leaderboard. That's like, if I had to give overarching themes to the

what I remember and what kind of stuck out, that's where I would go. Starting with the venue,

because it seems like the most obvious one. Madison is the right city for us. It's awesome.

I think that that mid-market city, the Madison's or the Boulder Colorados or the Charleston

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