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The Machaneh

02. Historical Narrative of the Lay and Full Time Ministry cont

The Machaneh

Dag Heward-Mills

Machaneh, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8554 Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2019

⏱️ 134 minutes

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117. Labour to be Blessed

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0:00.0

Welcome to track number two of Labor to be Blessed.

0:06.6

And full-time ministry has also matured a little

0:12.6

with the coming in of several bishops,

0:17.6

people who are bishops in the church.

0:19.7

So... people who are bishops in the church. So that is also, has also been important.

0:28.7

Because you see, the way the church started, you could get confused.

0:31.9

Sometimes I remember we have somebody who was ordained, and he works at the pathology and mortuary and somebody who works full time in the church. It's not ordained.

0:44.3

So when there is a wedding, we have to call the doctor who is at the mortuary to come and officiate a wedding while there are pastors there who are full-time but they are not ordained because

0:55.4

they came in as young people and were not ordained but this one was an old an old person who has

1:03.1

been with us and is a lay pastor but he's a medical doctor is a pathologist so that we have to call

1:08.5

him to come and officiate which is our work as full-time pastors

1:12.6

but he rather has to do it so there were a lot of anomalies because of the people who came in full-time

1:18.7

and those who didn't come in full-time it caused a lot of things so we had issues to do with

1:23.5

ordination things that we have had to correct along the way.

1:28.3

You know, de-ordained people, ordained, correct, change the rules and the regulation.

1:35.3

But it is not out of irresponsibility that we just change things.

1:40.3

No, no, no. There have been very good reasons.

1:43.3

And we found it difficult to do, but it's like if we don't do it, this system will get

1:48.1

sport.

1:49.1

Yes.

1:50.1

And then another problem that, what I was trying to remember was that, the terminology, the dress code, and so on, were all contributing to the deception of people who

2:09.3

are lay passes. Because like I said, you, if you will be very truthful and honest, it's a privilege

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