02: Do we need faith to know that God exists?

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2016

⏱️ 21 minutes

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It is written (Romans 1:19), "That which is known of God," namely, what can be known of God by natural reason, "is manifest in them." Our natural knowledge begins from sense. Hence our natural knowledge can go as far as it can be led by sensible things. But our mind cannot be led by sense so far as to see the essence of God; because the sensible effects ofGod do not equal the power of God as their cause. Hence from the knowledge of sensible things the whole power of God cannot be known; nor therefore can His essence be seen. But because they are His effects and depend on their cause, we can be led from them so far as to know of God "whether He exists," and to know of Him what must necessarily belong to Him, as the first cause of all things, exceeding all things caused by Him. Hence we know that His relationship with creatures so far as to be the cause of them all; also that creatures differ from Him, inasmuch as He is not in any way part of what is caused by Him; and that creatures are not removed from Him by reason of any defect on His part, but because He superexceeds them all. ST 1. Q12. A12 SPONSORS EL Investments: https://www.elinvestments.net/pints Exodus 90: https://exodus90.com/mattfradd/ Hallow: http://hallow.app/mattfradd STRIVE: https://www.strive21.com/ GIVING Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mattfradd This show (and all the plans we have in store) wouldn't be possible without you. I can't thank those of you who support me enough. Seriously! Thanks for essentially being a co-producer coproducer of the show. LINKS Website: https://pintswithaquinas.com/ Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/matt-fradd FREE 21 Day Detox From Porn Course: https://www.strive21.com/ SOCIAL Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mattfradd Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattfradd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattfradd MY BOOKS Does God Exist: https://www.amazon.com/Does-God-Exist-Socratic-Dialogue-ebook/dp/B081ZGYJW3/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=fradd&qid=1586377974&sr=8-9 Marian Consecration With Aquinas: https://www.amazon.com/Marian-Consecration-Aquinas-Growing-Closer-ebook/dp/B083XRQMTF/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=fradd&qid=1586379026&sr=8-4 The Porn Myth: https://www.ignatius.com/The-Porn-Myth-P1985.aspx CONTACT Book me to speak: https://www.mattfradd.com/speakerrequestform Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Pints with Aquinas Episode 2, I'm Matt Fred.
0:06.1	If you could sit down with St. Thomas Aquinas over a pint of beer and ask him any one question,
0:12.5	what would it be?
0:14.2	In today's episode we'll ask Thomas the question, do we need faith to know that God exists
0:19.4	or can we know that just by reason alone?
0:31.0	Welcome to Pints with Aquinas.
0:33.8	This is the show where you and I pull up a bar stall next to the angelic doctor and discuss
0:40.5	theology and philosophy.
0:43.7	In today's show we want to talk about reasons power to know God if it even has that power.
0:51.8	Some people seem to talk as if faith is what is required and only faith to know whether
0:57.5	or not God exists.
0:59.8	Some seem to speak as if reason had been so perverted by the fall that we can no longer
1:05.4	rely on it.
1:07.5	Other people want to say no reason is all we need and it's the only thing we can rely
1:12.4	on to know truths about the world and we can discover if God exists by reason and if
1:17.8	he does what he's like.
1:20.6	Well Thomas addresses this question in the first part of the Sumithiologica Question 12.
1:26.5	He says this, it is written in Romans 119 that which is known of God is manifest in them.
1:38.4	Our natural knowledge begins from sense.
1:42.6	Hence our natural knowledge can go as far as it can be led by sensible things but our
1:49.4	minds cannot be led by sense so far as to know the essence of God because the sensible
1:54.6	effects of God do not equal the power of God as their cause.
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