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From a prominent Christian attorney to the chain gang, a story of amazing redemption.

It's time for the line of fire with your host, biblical scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown,

your voice for moral sanity and spiritual clarity.

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And now, here's your host, Dr. Michael Brown.

Joining us on the line of fire, this is an interview I have been wanting to do for some time and so thrilled to have

Brian and Don around on the air with me. This is Michael Brown, your voice for moral sanity and

spiritual clarity. And the story you're going to hear is a story of warning and a story of redemption and I'm going to dive right in with my guest

Brian and Donna welcome to the line of fire thanks for joining me hi thanks for having us

hey there all right can you hear me okay I can't can you hear me okay? I can't. Can you hear me?

Breaking up just a little bit. So are you going to pass the phone to Donna at certain points? How are we going to do this?

Okay. Yeah, I will pass it to her. I guess I'll just leave it off a speaker at this point and then just pass it, best to do that, right? We get the best quality. Okay, Brian, you were a student of mine at Christ for the Nations Institute of Biblical Studies on Long Island in the mid-1980s, and then went on from there, ended up to law school what happened to you after that after you went to law school what happened you with your career after i went to law school

i ended up working for j seculo and we moved from virginia beach to new york to open up the new york

city office and i did that for a number of years.

And then I went into private practice.

And after that, I moved to Arizona and worked for a Christian legal organization for a number of years.

And that's where things got a little murky.

All right.

So this was when I saw you, I hadn't seen you for years, I was out visiting

a colleague who worked with that same Christian legal organization, and there you came in

and jacket and tie. It's like, whoa, man, you have made it.

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