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One of the years he was in the NFL. He let him in tackles super bowl multiple pro bowls Jonathan Vilbins now a Fox Sports NFL analyst and

We've had him as

Part of our team for a while, but we've never really seen him in person. That's kind of the way our world works for the last year

So he is here the former

Miami hurricane. Yeah, you played on the national champion. Didn't you beat Nebraska?

Pummel at the Nebraska at the Rose Bowl. Yeah, just want to give you the right adjective for you only had like four fans there, but they had

You know fans that

So you know, it's interesting. We were talking about Big Ben

First hour of the show is that listen

Then one a meaningful playoff game in a decade and I understand Ben is part of the culture

But you guys all know

When you get to a locker room

Maybe it's harder to do this with yourself, but you can look around the room and go he shot and

If you privately or anonymously asked

Stealer players about Ben who by the way never been fully committed in the offseason never been a tape study guy

Never been a good practice player if it was private and you ask guys about Ben

Would they say yes? It's kind of time to start over there a quarterback

Oh

Now I'll go back to your first comment of you can look at a guy and say he's he's shot, right?

But he's clearly not the player he was before but is he still productive and that's that's the key is he's still better than

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